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Yeps den er god Salighed...ja der er også fucked up brasilianske fans og yeps det er ikke hooliganisme som du kender fra Europa...her skyder man folk ned, så pas på med at flashe klubtilhørsforholdet rundt omkring i Sydamerika - hvad enten det er i Buenos Aires, Rio, São Paulo eller andet sted.

Det er Barras Bravas problematikken...



From their inception, the barras were supported and financed by the soccer clubs, at first just with free tickets and travel to games -- which remain the primary benefits -- and later with hard cash. But as the soccer industry grew, so did the business interests and power of the barras.

First, the barras started managing ticket sales and running ticket rackets, which became a major source of income. They also took control of the parking lots around stadiums, and the "trapitos" or informal valets, who look after parked cars.

With hundreds of thousands of people attending Argentine soccer matches every week, huge profits are at stake. Profits from trapitos during just one match day at Buenos Aires´ Bombonera stadium, for instance, can reach 300,000 Argentine pesos (around $30,000), according to La Nacion.

In and around the stadiums the barras also sell merchandise, refreshments, and sometimes illegal drugs. In one case last year, 170 kilos of cocaine and marijuana, as well as ecstasy, pre-cursor chemicals and arms, worth more than $600,000, were seized at a private property from a group believed to be linked to a barra barra in the town of San Martin, Buenos Aires province. More than 150 tickets to soccer games were found alongside the drugs.

"This is an investigation that started out looking at economic crimes and has ended in the discovery of a big drug laboratory, where there is a relationship between barra brava members, weapons, drugs and other crimes," Argentina´s Security Minister Sergio Berni said at the time.



As the barras’ size and reach grew over the decades, so did their control over soccer club management. The barras have enormous control over who plays for the club, who manages the club, and what benefits and privileges they are granted.
Club officials who do not meet the barras´ demands face dismissal from their position or threats of physical harm. These officials can include club presidents.

A remarkable video published in 2012 showed Paulo "Bebote" Alvarez, the ex-leader of the barra brava of major club Independiente, threatening club president Javier Cantero on live television. Cantero had been frequently threatened and lost many members of his management team since taking over as president and declaring war on the barras the year before.

"Liar!," shouts Bebote repeatedly while pursuing Cantero, his face covered by a cap and hood.

"Who´s the liar?" replies Cantero, enraged. "The person that lives off the club, that steals from the club."

Once inside the stadium, Cantero faces Alvarez through metal bars.

"How much money has he taken?" shouts the club president. "$42,000 in September! $32,000 in October! He and his associates steal the money off the club. He is a thief!"

One Argentine journalist who has spent years investigating soccer corruption told the Guardian the biggest barras get up to 30 percent of player transfer fees and 20 percent of players´ paychecks. The newspaper did not state whether it could verify the assertion.






The barras bravas would not be able to exercise the power they do without intricate links to politicians and law enforcement.

Politicians contract the groups to turn up at marches, get votes, or display banners at matches. In one famous example, the barra brava for Argentine club River Plate displayed a giant banner reading "Clarin Miente," or "Clarin Lies," a reference to opposition newspaper Clarin.

Another banner, displayed by the barra of Rosario team Central, stated "Nestor Vive," referring to the Argentine ex-president and ex-husband of current President Cristina Kirchner, Nestor Kirchner, who died in 2007.
Many barras also have links to and receive financing from trade unions. Perez said even his small barra -- known as La Mortadela -- received money from trade unions, and had a strong influence over the management of the club.

This link between the barras and the unions has led to accusations that they are a Peronist phenomenon, part of the proletarian political movement founded by Juan Domingo Peron and continued by the Kirchners. Garriga says this is false.
"All the political parties have some link with the barras," he said. "When you analyze it you see that the barras have wide political links with whoever pays them."

These deep political links are what marks Argentina´s barras bravas from organized fan groups in other parts of the world, said Nicolas Balinotti, an Argentine journalist who has written extensively on the topic. "Even the President (Cristina Kirchner) has praised them," he said. "Without using the words barras bravas she spoke of her respect for them. They have a legitimacy and are seen as part of the spectacle of Argentine soccer. This, more than any of their illegal activities, means they are unlikely to disappear any time soon."




Du kan se det er mere mafia inspireret end egentlig fodbold hooliganisme.

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/violence-power-soccer-and-drugs-argentinas-barras-bravas
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Det er ikke helt det samme TR ;-)

Uruguay:

Her er det vel et simpelt spørgsmål om Peñarol eller Nacional ?

Bevares Defensor Sporting og Danubio vinder undertiden også et mesterskab - Racing Club, River Plate, Liverpool og Wanderers stikker undertiden også næsen frem og kvalificere sig til turneringer i CONMEBOL regi, men vi taler altså Manyas eller Bolsos dey kan vi ikke komme udenom..

Peñarol har vist stadigvæk et lille overtag titelmæssigt 48 mesterskaber til Nacional´s 45, 5 Copa Libertadores til Nacionals 3 , og 3 verdensmesterskaber til hver.

Peñarol har vist også lidt flere tilhængere end Nacional.

Så det er vel lidt lala afhængig af hvem du spørger...

Peñarol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwGlPXEMQsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvdJJkGJYpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHL4aYOjEE

Nacional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvLiLQmkzSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAsnBnJieec



Som du kan se har de begge et par passioneret barras bravas , syntes vi skal give den til Peñarol.
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/penarol-fans-riot-fight-with-cops-as-nacional-wins-uru-1711276761
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Palmeiras og Flamengo fortsætter parløbet i toppen af Serie A. Det er godt for spændingen og tilskuerantallet.

De Grønne vinder 2-0 over América Mineiro, mens Flamengo gør det et mål bedre mod Santa Cruz. Willian Arão, han må da være en kandidat til landsholdet...
det er jo fuldstændigt vildt de stadigvæk ligger til et muligt mesterskab...man tør jo ikke tro på det ..det er jo Mengo trods alt...så en Copa Libertadores plads vil være fint...

Arãoinsteiger på landsholdet, tjo kunne være interessant, men det funker ok øjeblikket....


Når lad os håbe På:

Bolivia - Ecuador 1

Colombia - Uruguay 1

Argentina - Paraguay X

Chile - Peru X

Venezuela - Brasilien 2


Så vi kan køre den hjem fra spids af nu...

Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Bolivia foran efter 3 min ved Pablo Escobar...
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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2-0 Bolivia - Pablo escobar igen...


Fortsat 0-0 i Barranquilla...ganske jævnbyrdigt so far...
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
1-0 Colombia, Aguilar header hjemmeholdet foran efter hjørnespark

Bolivia er gået til Pause med en 2-0 føring i La Paz.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
1-1 i Barranquilla, Sanchez med frispark...Rodriguez header den ind med lidt hjælp fra Ospina.
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Ecuador har reduceret i La Paz ved Enner Valencia...2-1....pause 1-1 i Barranquilla.....
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
Brasil: Flamengo, Vasco, Fluminense, Botafogo (100% Carioca) Rio > Säo Paulo MENGÃO TRI DA AMÈRICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RlVt8zJhXQ
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