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Der er meget forskel på den sydeuropæiske og den nordeuropæiske fan-kultur. Lande som Italien, Grækenland, Tyrkiet og Serbien, ligner lidt mere den sydamerikanske fan-kultur, imens det eneste nordeuropæiske land, hvor man finder de virkelig passionerede fans, er i Polen, hvor der er også er nogle fanatiske fans.

Her er det dog lige så meget dig, der skærer alle over én kam, fordi citerede er altså ikke sandt.


Spanske fans er generelt lidt mere reserverede og sværere at imponere - ikke kun i de to storklubber - fordi med La Ligas niveau forventer publikummet underholdning. Det er underholdning, som man kan sidestille med Romerrigets gladiatorkampe, hvor publikummet så vender tommeltotten op eller ned.

Ikke, at det skyldes manglende passion, men tilgangen til fodbold er bare meget mere ren og uspoleret i børnehøjde - lige indtil man op til denne sæson indførte spilletidspunkter kl. lort fredag/lørdag aften (altødelæggende for en god bytur i øvrigt). Igen handler det om underholdning for den brede masse.

Eksempelvis serveres ikke alkohol på de fleste spanske stadions, og mange spaniere anser simpelthen britere og for dens sags skyld skandinavere som "barbariske" - Benidorm du ved, Deportivo Fas...

Man kan kalde det en naiv tilgang til fodbolden, ikke mindst økonomisk hvor det fx ikke er noget særsyn at yde børn gratis adgang til kampe, men det virker nu rimeligt godt rent sportsligt, må man konstatere.

De spanske klubber har da også curva´er, der trækker stemningen op og laver flotte banners, men de er som oftest placeret samlet og måske helt ovre i et hjørne - stemningen er dog blevet bedre med årene.

Generelt er stemningen i Spanien bedre end så mange andre steder, men jeg står dog fast på at den sydamerikanske fankultur ligner mere den syd-østeuropæiske, end den ligner den spanske. Ikke nogen direkte kritik af de spanske fans, men jeg mener blot at stemningen generelt er lidt bedre i Italien, Serbien, Tyrkiet og Grækenland. Men især i de tre sidstnævnte lande, der er det kun 3-4 klubber som virkelig skiller sig ud, imens Spanien har lidt flere klubber der gør sig gældende.

https://www.youtube.com/…JdSCYtdmwrI

De serbiske fans forstår også at skabe stemning, som TR er inde på. Hen omkring 07:00 min

Jeg overvejer også at lave en blog over de største opgør i verden. Selvfølgelig kræver det en del research, men der er nogle af opgørene der giver lidt sig selv.

Hvilket opgør er egentlig traditionelt det største? Flamengo-Vasco Da Gama eller Flamengo-Fluminense?

Så har Honduras også udtaget holdet til kampen mod USA d. 6 februar.

Dejligt at se Costly er en del af truppen. Han spillede også 90 min for Veria, da holdet søndag tabte ude til Giannina i den bedste græske liga og Veria ligger dermed til nedrykning (guderne forbyde det)

Goalkeepers (3): Noel Valladares (Olimpia), Donis Escober (Olimpia), José Mendoza (Marathón)

Defenders (8): Arnold Peralta (Vida), Bryan Beckeles (Olimpia), Víctor Bernárdez (San Jose Earthquakes), Osman Chávez (Wisla Krakow/Poland), Maynor Figueroa (Wigan Athletic), Juan Pablo Montes (Platense), Emilio Izaguirre (Celtic/Scotland), Juan Carlos García (Olimpia)

Midfielders (8): Luis Garrido (Red Star Belgrade), Jorge Claros (Hibernian), Roger Espinoza (Wigan Athletic/England), Alex López (Olimpia), Andy Najar (D.C. United), Boniek García (Houston Dynamo), Mario Martínez (Seattle Sounders), Aldo Oviedo (Real España)

Forwards (4): Jerry Bengtson (New England Revolution), Roger Rojas (Olimpia), Carlo Costly (Veria/Greece), Georgie Welcome (Motagua)

@TR
Jeg ville vælge Fla-Flu frem for Flamengo-Vasco. De rige mod de fattige, eliten mod folket er overskrifter, der kan dække dette classico. Her er der lidt til din research.

http://placar.abril.com.…ta-100-anos

Fla-Flu da Lagoa i 1941 har en speciel historie. Fluminense skulle bruge et uafgjort resultat på Estadio do Flamengo i Gávea for at vinde Rio-mesterskabet, så taktikken bestod i at høvle boldene ud i den nærliggende sø (lagoa)for at trække tiden. Da Flamengo kunne se, at man var ved at løbe tør for bolde, blev klubbens ro-sektion sat på vandet for at hente boldene på land igen. Trods en flot indsats fra roerne lykkedes Fluminense-missionen. Kampen sluttede 2-2 og Flu kunne lade sig hylde som årets Rio-mestre.

Samba

Med lidt ond vilje kan man vel hævde at FLA-FLU er et internt klubopgør - Men Vasco-FLA er et decideret lokalopgør mellem 2 klubber - måske ovenikøbet de største lokalopgør på kloden fanmæssigt da vi taler 60 millioner + fans sammenlagt af begge hold.

TR1986

for at supplere Samba Du kan med fordel bruge Wiki til at danne dig et generelt overblik...

http://en.wikipedia.org/…n_Argentina

http://en.wikipedia.org/…all_derbies

http://en.wikipedia.org/…_by_country

Lidt Brasser nyt @Samba det virker til du har ret mht Paulinho saga´en.


Brazilian forwards Mazinho and Cléo head for Japan

Palmeiras confirmed the departure of forward Mazinho on Monday, with the player set to join J-League side Vissel Kobe for 2013.

The offer had been rejected under former president Arnaldo Tirone at the start of January. However, under the new leadership of Paulo Nobre, the deal has been revived.

After a good Paulista championship campaign last season, Mazinho found himself little used by manager Gilson Kleina following the departure of Luiz Felipe Scolari.

In Japan, he will be joined by former Partizan Belgrade striker Cléo, who has joined Kashiwa Reysol on a year´s loan from Chinese champions Guangzhou Evergrande.

Since the arrival of Paraguay´s Lucas Barrios in 2012, Cléo has fallen out of coach Marcello Lippi´s first-team plans and he will now follow defender Paulão out of the club on loan.

He leaves China as a double title-winner, as well as a 2012 Chinese FA Cup winner, having joined as the club´s then record signing for €3.2 million in 2011.


Tottenham launch last ditch £20m bid for Leandro Damião - report

Tottenham have launched a last ditch attempt to sign Internacional striker Leandro Damião with a £20m bid being prepared according to reports in England.

The Daily Star claims that Andre Villas-Boas is desperate to add a striker to his ranks and wants to bring Damião to the club to fill in for Emmanuel Adebayor.

Spurs have approached Internacional in the past for the striker but several offers have been turned down.

Damião´s agent has been quoted this month hinting at a possible move to Tottenham: "While Leandro Damiao stays at Internacional, Tottenham will always be interested. Andre Villas-Boas has liked him since he was Chelsea´s manager."

The Internacional forward shot into the public eye with a series of outstanding performances for Brazil at London 2012 where he netted six goals in six games on their way to the final.

The striker has also scored seven times in 19 appearances in last season´s Brasileirão.


Corinthians deny approach from Inter for Paulinho

Corinthians have confirmed that they have yet to be approached by Inter for their dynamic midfielder Paulinho.

The midfielder is subject of intense speculation after reports that Inter are ready to lodge a bid after the sales of Wesley Sneijder and Phillipe Coutinho.

But sporting director Edu Gaspar told reporters: “We have not met with anyone. There have been no official offers for Paulinho.

“If Inter are interested then they should speak with us, then with the player.”

The release clause for Paulinho is reported to be close to the €18m mark but Inter are prepared to lodge a €15m bid according to reports in Italy.

Coutinho is set to seal a move to Liverpool later today after the player flew in for a medical and Sneijder has made his debut for Galatasaray.

Shakhtar´s Willian eyes Seleção call up

Shakhtar Donetsk´s Willian is hopeful of a call up to the Seleção under Luiz Felipe Scolari after appearing just twice under predecessor Mano Menezes.

In an interview with Goal.com, Willian revealed his national team hopes now that Scolari is in the hotseat.

"I believe that everything starts from scratch when changing a coach. All players want to show their best to claim their place again."

He also admitted that while the Premier League is his preferred destination, he would not rule out a return to Brazil with Corinthians his favoured destination.

"My goal is to continue in Europe, but never rule out a return to Brazil. Brazilian football is growing considerably.

"Each team has at least three players of great quality. Corinthians is the team that showed me everything, I have great affection for them. It is still early to talk about it, but I certainly plan to return one day to the club."

But for now, Willian is focusing on leading Shakhtar to Champions League glory: "Our goal is to go step by step to maybe reach the final of the Champions League.

"Expectations are high. We know that Borussia Dortmund is very qualified, have good players, are doing successfully and managed to qualify in first place in a very strong group.

"But we also know our quality and we have chances to go far. We need to analyse their team well and come with full concentration, since we know that both games will be very difficult."

Vagner Love slams Flamengo board over transfer debts

CSKA Moscow´s new signing Vagner Love has criticised Flamengo´s new president and the board for causing a financial crisis at the club.

Flamengo failed to keep up payments for Love´s transfer to CSKA and the Russian side agreed a free transfer for the striker.

Only €3.5m was paid to CSKA in total, with the remaining €6.5m yet to be paid to the Russians by Flamengo.

"The exchange of the Flamengo president has caused serious financial problems for the club," said the player.

"That´s why when my agent offered me to return to CSKA I accepted almost immediately. Everything was done in just three days and I believe it is in everyone´s best interest."

Love, 28, joined Flamengo in a €9m deal in 2012, scoring 13 goals in 36 appearances. He will now rejoin CSKA where he scored 79 goals in 158 appearances in his first spell at the club.

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Eksempelvis serveres ikke alkohol på de fleste spanske stadions, og mange spaniere anser simpelthen britere og for dens sags skyld skandinavere som "barbariske" - Benidorm du ved, Deportivo Fas...

Ja den engelske arbejderklasse er virkelig en fryd for øjet....og menneskeheden...