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Der tænkes muligvis på Hoffenheim med Dietmar Hopp.

Altså Hoffenheim der ligger nr. 12 i Bundesligaen.

Skulle det være et eksempel på en europæisk storklub der er groet ud af den bare granit, har taget verden med storm og nu har en fanbase der kan måle sig med de (andre, forstås) store klubber?

Med al respekt, du læser teksten, som fanden læser biblen.

Curva Sud ironiserer - i mine øjne sprogligt elegant - over, hvordan alle (andre end fans) igen og igen udtalte, "at fodbolden tilhørte folket", mens de voldtog fodbolden i økonomiens og magtens navn. Deres seneste eksempel er VM i Qatar, så de taler ikke blot i datid, det sker fortsat.

CS kunne måske have hjulpet dig - og eventuelt også andre - ved have sat udsagnet "Football belonged to the people" i anførselstegn, som jeg har gjort ovenfor, for at understrege den ironiserende og repetitive frase.

Desuden står der helt bogstaveligt:

But the thing that makes us even more indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who have contributed to making this sport just a business, who are now rising up in the name of the fans, but simply because they see the breakage of that lucrative toy that they thought untouchable.

Hvordan kan du udlægge det som andet end, at det netop er i "fans´ navn", og gennem misbrugen af dette alibi, at man har mishandlet fodbolden.

Her er for øvrigt hele kommunikéet, så kan folk selv udlægge teksten:

As the football season draws to a close, the world of football has been hit by a storm called the Super League, a competition strongly desired by the most emblazoned European teams, in open contrast with the policies of UEFA.

A real earthquake in the football environment, which inevitably affects us closely, given that our Milan team is one of the dozen “splitting” societies that intend to give life to this new European competition.

The reaction of the various football institutional and political components was as quick as it was predictable and pressurised, with heads of government, leaders of the various national and international federations and club managers from all over Europe wasting no time in vehemently attacking the components of this new league, threatening heavy penalties under the cry of “football belongs to the people”.

Honestly, the fact that all the gentlemen in the control room are now putting us fans first makes us smile.

The Super League is just the latest of countless manoeuvres that have been taking place for decades and have turned football into a business. Certainly the birth of this new competition would be yet another blow to the football of the past, which is now only a distant memory, and will inevitably end up obscuring the charm and tradition of the various national leagues, depriving football of the indispensable principle of sporting meritocracy.

But the thing that makes us even more indignant is the hypocrisy of all those who have contributed to making this sport just a business, who are now rising up in the name of the fans, but simply because they see the breakage of that lucrative toy that they thought untouchable.

Football belonged to the people until the 1990s, when the Champions League came into being, to the detriment of the old champions’ cup.

Football belonged to the people, even when no one did anything to stop the high ticket prices imposed by some presidents.

Football also belonged to the people when nothing was done to hinder the unstoppable rise of the agents, who took the players’ salaries to ever more astronomical figures, sustainable only thanks to the income from television rights, those TVs that then imposed increasingly tight calendars, with matches on days and times that were absolutely improbable.

Football belonged to the people even when rules were introduced to prohibit any kind of relationship between players and fans.

Football was also the people’s game when Super Cup finals were played on other continents, or when the dates of some matches were changed just a few days before the game, to the detriment of fans who may have already bought train or plane tickets to attend the stadium.

Football belonged to the people even when some very influential presidents in the league openly stated that despite the achievement of the sporting result, some clubs with a small catchment area should be prevented from playing in Serie A.

Football belonged to the people even when some clubs were allowed to circumvent financial fair play, while others with less influential bosses were penalised.

Football also belonged to the people when it was decided by all means to assign the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, despite the fact that this would mean that the World Cup would be held in November, which would upset the clubs’ calendar. The same Qatar, moreover, is under indictment for the countless human rights violations against the workers who helped build the stadiums, often in inhumane working conditions and resulting in some 6,500 deaths at work. It is strange that this has left FIFA, which is usually very attentive to social issues, indifferent, even if the doubt arises that it is only when it suits it…

We could list many other examples to demonstrate the absolute inconsistency in the words of these hours by the top management of football, compared to the work done for decades, which has led football to become from a popular game to a pure instrument of the most unrestrained business.

Football had to be revised from the ground up at all levels, federations, clubs, managers and players a long time ago.

The Super League is just another piece of rubbish, but those who have brought football to this point of almost no return are no less, so let’s avoid sleazy theatrics of rhetoric and morality. Now that the money is running out, get angry with each other, but don’t you dare mention the fans.

PIGS!

@mag
Jeg har skam læst det i sin helhed.

Jeg tror dog det ville hjælpe dig hvis du havde lidt kontekst på.
Curva Sud har nemlig altid (som de fleste andre ultra-grupperinger) haft en klar holdning til forskellen på fans.

Med det in mente, er jeg ingenlunde i tvivl om at dette også omhandler de hykleriske fans.

Bemærk, at jeg ingen steder har påstået, at dette ikke også er møntet på ejerne. Selvfølgelig er det det.

Omkring aftenens kamp, så kunne meget tyde på at det blev en 4-4-2 der bliver til 3-2-3-2 i offensiven.

Leao og Rebic i front, hvilket harmonerer godt med Piolis udtalelser efter weekendens kamp.

Dalot over for Berardi. Føj for den. Sassuolo er også i noget nær stærkeste.

Tja, Berardi trækker 99 af 100 gange ind i banen og dermed er det måske ikke det dummeste med en højrebenet back overfor ham.

@ Rosso

Jeg kender godt til Curva Sud. Har bekendte i Milano med tilhørsforhold til gruppen. Og jeg læser gerne deres udtalelser, da de som oftest er udtrykt uden omsvøb og samtidigt på en sproglig raffineret måde.

Dermed er jeg således også klar over, at de - som andre ultras - har deres holdning til "plastikfans".

Men jeg bemærker mig, at ingen fans - gode som dårlige - eksplicit er nævnt med et eneste negativt ord i kommunikéet, hvorimod alle andre aktører er nævnt direkte og umiskendeligt. Hvis "plastikfans" var i skudlinien, ville de være nævnt eksplicit - i CS´ direkte ånd. Eller omvendt... hvorfor skulle CS udelade dem, hvis CS mente, at de også var skyldige?

Alle eksemplerne - efter det ironiserende og repetitive "Football belonged to the people, when..." - omhandler derimod alle andres mishandlinger af fodbolden, historisk og frem til i dag. Ergo, pilen er rettet alle andre steder hen end mod fans.

Du afgør naturligvis selv, hvordan du vil udlægge teksten. Men der er, kort og godt, belæg for at skrive dét, jeg skriver :-)

Typisk at Zlatan, theo og bennacer er ude!! Fandme utroligt, skaderne bliver bare ved.
Men stadig et stærkt hold vi stiller med, endnu en finale og jeg håber vi har holdt fokus på kampen og er klar.
Sass kan hvis de får lov, spille noget flot flot bold.
Håber på det bedste, kom så forza Milan

@mag
Når du skriver, at det er møntet på alle andre end fans, er der ikke belæg for det.

CS skriver "those who...".

Det er naturligvis min tolkning, at dette inkluderer de "fans" der ikke deler samme værdier - ligesom det er din tolkning, at det modsatte er tilfældet.
Men min tolkning ville være fuldt på linje med det CS tidligere har ment.

Men det var nu engang dig der claimede fakta her. Og det håber jeg du kan se ikke holder.

Maldini har i dag udtalt, at han intet kendte til planerne om ESL.

Det er godt nok dårligt lederskab fra Gazidis.

Maldini er så meget mere end det hans visitkort siger og hvis man ville have bred opbakning, burde han være første mand man fik ombord.