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Man skulle tro, at man i en liga med så meget fokus og så mange penge på spil ville kunne spotte, at der kan være en interessekonflikt, når Oliver får et velbetalt bijob i et land, som Citys ejere regerer over.

Lige præcis, Muhami.
Med alle de penge i PL burde der også være til en ordentlig hyre til dommerne
- høj nok til, at man kunne stille tilsvarende krav til, at de ikke tog andre job.

Oliver overtræder mig bekendt ingen regler (udover almindelig pli, etik og sund dømmekraft for en dommer...), men hans arbejdsgivere burde selvfølgelig have mere styr på tropperne.

Hvem har udtalt dette?

Det fremgik af Ian Grahams bog, "How to Win the Premier League". Virkeligt interessant læsning i øvrigt, kan varmt anbefales.

Nedenfor er et lille udpluk fra et interview, hvor han ligeledes kommer ind på Núñez-transferen.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5702345/2024/08/19/liverpool-transfers-data-ian-graham/

"The signing of Darwin Nunez from Benfica for an initial fee of £64million in June 2022 was largely driven by Klopp after the Uruguayan’s impressive performances against Liverpool in the Champions League.

As Klopp’s power and influence increased, did the club move away from their data-led model?

“Nunez played brilliantly against Liverpool and that has an effect on people,” Graham says. “It didn’t do him any harm in becoming a Liverpool player.

“The difficulty with Nunez was that he was a very different type of player to Firmino. My questions were: ‘Are we going to change our style or formation for him?’ Is he a good enough player that it might be worth making those changes?’. It was something we had resisted for many years.

“We went through the same data process for Nunez as with other players. I wanted to make sure that everyone knew what a big change it would be with Nunez. It was more, ‘Are we sure we’re going to make the best use of him?’.

“I talk in the book about classifying players to understand what their role is. It’s different to whether they are any good or not. We always had a list of ‘great players but not for Liverpool’. Defensive full-backs, target men, crossing wingers — we just didn’t play in that style. It was clear that Nunez was a No 9.

“I wouldn’t say that the data said no to Nunez. It’s more ‘if we sign this player we have to understand this is the role we’ve seen him be effective in and is there currently a slot for him in our squad?’. And if you’re spending a large amount of money on a player then he has to start. The worst thing you can do is buy a squad player and spend money that could be out there on the pitch.”

Med alle de penge i PL burde der også være til en ordentlig hyre til dommerne

De tjener ganske pænt.

A referee in the Premier League can earn up to 1,500 pounds per game, plus a base salary of over 100,000 pounds per year.

Ja ret interessant med Graham bog/ interview.
Den jeg har set på YouTube er han osse inde med tiden under Rodgers, hvor han lå på knæ for FSG ikke signede Benteke. Men Rodgers fik sin vilje :)

At foden er uden for stregen er jo ligegyldigt, hvis knæet er over stregen og kontakten sker der.
- ligesom en målmand gerne må stå uden for målfeltet, og holde bolden i hånden inde i målfeltet.

Det straffespark er ikke er hvor man bør grave dybere. Det er dømt, og kunne ikke afkræftes ved brug af video.
- det bliver man simpelhen nødt til at acceptere som værende en præmis i fodbold.

Den jeg har set på YouTube er han osse inde med tiden under Rodgers, hvor han lå på knæ for FSG ikke signede Benteke. Men Rodgers fik sin vilje :)

Var det ikke også Rodgers, der fik presset Balo igennem?

Dengang kunne jeg egentlig godt lide Rodgers (fordi han igen fik hevet klubben op i den højere ende af tabellen). Men i eftertiden kan jeg godt se, at han var noget clueless - og traf en række elendige beslutninger/pressede på for nogle elendige tranfers.

Prime Suarez, Gerrard samt Coutinho og Sterling på vej op hjalp ham sgu meget.

Ja, der var sgu nogle løjerlige køb iblandt. Hans tidligere spillere som Fabio Borini og Joe Allen f.eks. var jo aldrig nogensinde gode nok, ej heller Rickie Lambert. Alberto Moreno var mildest talt af tvivlsom karakter rent defensivt og det blev aldrig rigtigt bedre hvad det angik, selv efter Rodgers var fortid. Aly Cissokho på en lejeaftale var også tragikomisk, hold op han var ringe. Victor Moses, Nuri Sahin og Manquillo, ligeledes på lejeaftaler, var heller ikke var nogen succes. Lallana og Lovren var vel samlet set okay, men hhv. £25m og £20m var for vores vedkommende ikke-ubetydelige beløb at bruge på én spiller dengang. Man brændte også lige knap £20m af på Lazar Marković i Benfica, der endte med at floppe totalt. Danny Ings og føromtalte Benteke ligeså. Assaidi, Clyne, Aspas, Alberto og til dels Mignolet var heller ikke noget at skrive hjem om. De eneste gode handler under Rodgers´ tid var vel Can, Coutinho, Sturridge, Origi, Milner, Firmino (som Rodgers som bekendt ikke selv havde peget på) og så Joe Gomez. Mamadou Sakho faldt vel ned et sted midt imellem.

Ifølge Rodgers selv (artiklen er fra 2016) havde han dog peget på Alexis Sánchez men måtte tage til takke med Balotelli. Som jeg husker det var det Sánchez´ kone der foretrak London over Liverpool.

Brendan Rodgers has claimed he did not have the final say on transfer policy during his time as manager of Liverpool and that certain players, including Mario Balotelli, were signed only because “the owners are wanting you to go down that route”.

After missing out on the signing of Alexis Sánchez in the summer 2014 Balotelli moved to Anfield for £16m but failed to make a lasting impression on Merseyside last season and was subsequently loaned to Milan. After Liverpool’s slow start to this campaign Rodgers was sacked in October and replaced by Jürgen Klopp but Rodgers spoke out on Sunday regarding the club’s recruitment policy.

“As a manager you’ll always be the figurehead but there’s a recruitment team in place – guys who’ll work very hard,” Rodgers told Sky Sports. “It was a group decision; it was certainly not something where I would have the sole final say. It’s difficult because you want a player in but, if the player is not on the list, you’d have to take someone.

“We needed a player who could press at the top of the pitch; it wasn’t just a goalscorer we were after because Luis Suárez was giving us so much more than that. After a friendly against Milan I was asked the question and I felt Mario wasn’t someone who suited the profile of what we were after. But come the end of the summer when we were struggling to get in the type of player we wanted, the ownership thought this was perhaps a player I could develop.

“He’s a wonderful talent, there’s no doubt about that; you see him on the training ground every day – tall, strong, great touch. They were thinking this is a £50m player we could maybe get for £16m. When the owners are wanting you to go down that route and there’s no other option, you give it a go.”

Rodgers said he had identified Sánchez, then playing for Barcelona, as somebody better suited to the tactical system he wished to implement, and also claimed that Dele Alli was another target that Liverpool were unable to secure.

“The huge blow was that we thought we were getting Alexis Sánchez and that he’d be a like-for-like replacement [for Suárez] in terms of how he pressed the game, his aggression,” Rodgers said. “We thought he’d be perfect, it’d be a smooth transition and Rickie Lambert would come in and be an option if we needed something else in the game.

“But we didn’t get Alexis Sánchez and, bless Rickie, there was a lot of pressure on him when really that wasn’t the plan. So we had to bring in someone, Mario has big talent – I wasn’t thinking I’d be any different in terms of managers who’ve had issues with him – and at that moment we didn’t really have another option. It was something that didn’t quite work for us and it cost us.

De tjener ganske pænt.

A referee in the Premier League can earn up to 1,500 pounds per game, plus a base salary of over 100,000 pounds per year.

Tak for info, YNWA - det er jo ikke nogen sulteløn, så de burde kunne nøjes...

Men som tidligere skrevet - og helt i tråd med Hasse ovenfor - så er det ikke det konkrete straffe, der bør give næring til mistanke, for den dom er efter bogen.
Kontakten er ved knæet, og knæet er over stregen. Lidt ligesom Oliver generelt...

Det er en interessekonflikt at Michael Oliver er involveret i vores kampe.
(det gælder iøvrigt også Arsenal kampe, og det mest indlysende City kampe)

Fint med en WH sejr i aftes. De har brug for lidt momentum inden deres kamp i weekenden.
Realistisk set så bør 90 point være nok til et mesterskab, og hvis det er sådan så må/kan Arsenal og Chelsea kun miste 10 point mere i sæsonen. City 11 point.
Det kan sagtens blive svært, specielt med tanke på at de begge har det svært mod Big 6 denne her sæson,