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Her lidt normalt pålidelig info omkring sagen med VVD:

08 Jun 2017 06:28:27
Having spoken to the person who has been keeping me informed on this, to get clarity, I think it is time I gave the full explanation of what I am now being told. I am going to refer to the person as he/ him, just because it is easier rather than because it is a male.

So I have pestered him, because I wanted some clarification of the full story and to know if I am being deliberately fed misinformation to keep the club out of trouble. He claims that he is telling me exactly what he has been told, that there is no attempt to mislead me on his behalf, either knowingly or unknowingly. So this is basically the story as he gives it:

After matches Klopp will often chat with opposition players, just a friendly chat, nothing untoward, many managers will do it.

However, remarks were made to VVD along the lines of ´I would love to have you in my team´ or similar when we have faced Southampton. Which VVD has obviously taken to heart, though we have no way of knowing if Klopp was making the first moves towards a signing or just making a throwaway remark regarding the player. So that could be seen as a problem in the light of following events, though would normally not even be noticed.

Anyway, last summer things were a bit unsettled there with Jose Fonte fighting to leave and it caused a few issues with a number of the players there, who felt Fonte was unfairly treated after his years of service to the club. There are a number of players there who did not like the treatment Fonte received and felt he should have been allowed to make his dream move, rather than held to his contract and then ended up in limbo before joining West Ham United just to get away from Saints. VVD has at this point made the decision he wants to go and asked his agent to put out feelers looking for interested parties.

We showed interest at this point, I don´t have dates, I have never had any kind of dates to give, which is why I have never mentioned any, but I would assume this is just after the January window, as this was when he was disgruntled. However, instead of going direct to the club and seeking permission to speak to them and him over a summer move, we spoke directly to the agent.

Now our excuse, which is why I am told the club immediately backed out and apologised, is that we were told the agent and player came to us with Saints´ blessing. I will leave you to make up your own mind over the truth of that claim, as I really do not know. I have no way to verify that information one way or the other.

To cut a long story short, the player, agent and club sorted out a deal, then and only then do LFC go to Saints to negotiate a price. That is when all hell broke loose and Soton investigated, made a complaint etc.

That is how he explained it to me, but I have no way to verify any of it, which is why I am giving you a full version as he tells it. In the past he has been reliable, though he has often asked me not to pass on things, the info he has given had checked out. This time I am not sure though, this feels too neat and like someone is trying to shift the blame. Either way the club is at fault for not ensuring they had permission to speak to the player.

Saints agter at gå videre med deres klage over Liverpools fremfærd. Liverpools undskyldning skulle prøve at forhindre, at Saints tog der skridt.

Og den undskyldning var da også mærkelig og halv akavet, når man kigger på det. Liverpool må altså ha´ gjort noget, der kan få dem i fedtefadet.

Noget af et skakspil, der foregår. Ærgerligt, hvis man misser sin top prioritet

Det virker ikke gennemtænkt at skrinlægge interessen i en spiller man aldrig formelt har forhørt sig om. Liverpool har skudt sig i den ene fod, og vælger så at pege pistolen ned og resolut blæse den anden af også, men denne gang i fuld offentlighed.

Har man ikke allerede karantæne på akademi-niveau, for noget tilsvarende med en ungdomsspiller?

Det er da klart, at Saints er pissy. De mister deres bedste spillere år efter år, men sådan er gamet, og det betyder jo også, at de er gode til at finde og udvikle spillere til højeste niveau. Det er selvfølgelig bare svært at bygge noget op.

Jeg skal ikke kunne sige, hvordan Liverpool har ageret og hvorfor, men den her transfersaga er ikke lukket endnu.

Det ville være en rimelig mærkelig situation, hvis det går så vidt at Soton kan tvinge LFC til at betale de 75 mio for VVD, blot for at de skal trække klagen tilbage?

Edit:
Men er det helt utænkeligt at det er hvad de er ude på?

Jo, to års transfer ban, for at forsøge at sweetalke en 12årig dreng med hjem til Liverpool.

Solanke med to og Ojo med oplæg ved u20 VM, 3-1 over Italien i overtid nu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrdCEWYyrkQ

Ojo var efter sigende toneangivende efter han kom på banen, som Magnifico også siger.

I kan glæde jer til Solanke. Han var stærk i dagens semifinale mod Italien. Ojo lavede et fremragende indhop.

Akademikarantænen kan dog ikke helt sammenlignes med VVD-sagen ud over, at den sag også virker lettere amatøragtig.

Det var forældrene, der mente, at Liverpool havde gjort noget galt, og FA gav dem ret i, at Liverpool ikke måtte kontakte dem på den måde, klubben havde gjort.

Stoke gad ikke at klage over Liverpool, og formanden pegede på, at reglerne var problemet.

Hvis undskyldningen til Soton er med til at afværge en straf, er det et fint træk. Hvis undskyldningen ikke afværger en straf, er den unødvendig. Med mindre man kan få øje på et eller andet etisk snefug, som undskyldningen rettet fokus på.

Southampton har accepteret undskyldningen. Sagen er lukket, og VVD kan afskrives.