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Næ det har jeg ikke, men jeg har haft mange indlæg omkring SA og deres opkøb af stort set alt sport og hvorfor jeg er yderst kritisk overfor dette. Jeg har osse haft mange indlæg om, at spillere simpelhen ikke kan sige nej til de her absurde lønninger de får i SA. Vi ser det samme i andre sportsgrene, bl.a golf hvor de osse smadrer sporten med deres absurde pengepræmier. Jeg husker selvfølgelig ikke alle handler til SA, men jeg kan ikke umiddelbart huske et køb hvor summen var “vildt absurd” på en spiller, men lønningerne er absurde.

Du må jo vide noget jeg ikke ved omkring beløbene LFC har solgt spillere for til SA. Det jeg dog ved er, at i LFC regnskab er der bogført £ 19.2 M for salgene af Henderson og Fabinho.

Næ det har jeg ikke

Men det passer jo ikke, du har op til flere gange haft meget travlt med hvordan det var Chelsea der stod bag da men nærmest var et og samme firma da man investerede penge for disse klub ejer i SA, så det var jo klart for en hver hvordan det var Chelsea der stod bag skulle man forstå, det er jo ikke længer tid siden end igår du var ude med ævle i samme boldgade igen.

Kæft det er pinligt for dig nu og skal sidde og erkende jeps du var lige hurtig nok sammen med en helt række andre Liverpool skrig balloner (og andre fans)

Og flot du lige regnskab teknisk vil smide hvad i har "bogført"
Fabinho solgt til mere end £40M, Henderson til mere end £10M, Firmino gratis og her til kan vi vel nævne en eller 2 Liverpool legender som tog der til som træner mm

Avs.. den sved det er jo de unde olie klubber, nej vent nu er det de onde snyder som er ejet af amerikanske investor som har så meget indflydelse man kunne sælge alle sine dårlig spiller til top £ mens resten af verden så på.

Sjovt så travlt du har med City og deres snyd også, bhuu uden dem vandt vi jo det og det og det, stakkels klopp snydt af den onde pep, iøvrig en manager man har meget svært ved at erkende bare er flere hylder over klopp, men nej det er jo snyyyyyyd.

Øv øv nu snyder Everton, Newcastle, Aston Villa og Chelsea med PSR, de sælger spiller til hinanden...

Øv øv men i det mindst kan vi sidde i vores Liverpool tråd og håbe på SA lige kommer forbi igen og køber vores spiller til "markeds pris" du ved Salah til 150M + flere vi ikke lige kan bruge men de skal KOSTE MANGE PENGE...

Det er da godt de moralske vogter var ude og lukke ned for SL og Multi klub før det kom i gang ... hov vent ...

Liverpool er ren ....

Hvis en hellig ko skider er lorten så uden stank?

At du ikke kan læse og kan udlade alt muligt er der intet nyt i.

Det her var hvad det startede med og det er ikke om Chelsea men om Aston Villa :

Planen er at finde de £ 75-80 M man mangler for at holde sig inden for reglerne. Det har man så “nogle venner” til at hjælpe med, der har samme problemer. Bliver spændende og se om de klubber der spiller Europæisk får held med at få godkendt de her handler regnskabsmæssigt af UEFA, hvor reglerne er anderledes.

Der kom du så farende !! Og skulle ævle om moral og hvad ved jeg. Selv udtrykket at jeg skulle flette næbbet omkring det indlæg var du ude i.

Dit indlæg taler for sig selv @KO og jeg gider ikke engang at debatterer med dig, du er helt væk i min bog.

Det er helt ok det sker ofte når man har lige været hurtig nok fremme i skoen og ikke rigtig kan forklar sine løgne eller fejltagelser og man taber ansigt.

Der er bare typer der ikke kan finde ud af at give en ordenlig undskyldning og sige, hey jeg har været et fjols jeg tog fejl, eller det vil sige ikke en gang en undskyldning mere bare at indrømme, sorry jeg tog fejl.

Fair nok tror hvis også jeg har brugt nok tid på dig men bare rolig hver gang du kommer med dit skinhellighed skal jeg nok lige huske dig på at selv dit lort lugter.

Man kan virkelig mærke de store følelser der er på spil her. Hvis i virkelig er så ligeglade med hvordan intentionen med reglerne omgåes, hvorfor må ingen så nævne det nogen steder?

Hvorfor er det så vigtigt at få nedgjort diskussion til at handle om moralske vogtere der hiver sig i banditten?

Man sidder lidt med en fornemmelse af at i måske alligevel ikke er så stolte over situationen - det er tydeligvis et meget ømt punkt at berøre lige nu.

God artikel om PSR og om hvorfor nogle klubber handler som de gør pt.

As Euro 2024 rumbles on in Germany, we can expect a busy week in the transfer market.
But the deals being worked on in the last week of June look unusual. Here’s what we know.
So what is happening in the transfer market and why?
Welcome to the age of the mutually beneficial transfer, where a clutch of clubs who are understood to be close to breaching Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) have suddenly started striking unusual deals.
Over the weekend Everton signed midfielder Tim Iroegbunam from Aston Villa while Lewis Dobbin has moved in the opposite direction. Both are academy graduates, so any money made is considered “pure profit” from a PSR perspective.
But the deals don’t end there: Everton and Newcastle United are talking about possible deals for Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Yankuba Minteh. And Chelsea are close to signing Omari Kellyman for £19m from Aston Villa, who are keen on Ian Maatsen, the Chelsea defender.
Football finance expert Kieran Maguire believes there is one reason for this cycle of deals – and that is the so-called “soft” transfer deadline of 30 June, the end of the accounting year for PSR purposes.
“These are mutually beneficial transfers in the sense we have five or six clubs who ideally want to get a profit from some source before 30 June,” he tells i.
“Let’s say we’ve got two clubs with players worth £8m and £10m respectively, who are promising players but don’t have much experience. You could swap those two players with a cash transfer of £2m from one club to the other.
“If we assume those two players are academy players, one team books a profit of £8m and the other books £10m.
“What could be happening instead is both clubs are saying: ‘Well, let’s make it £18m and £20m and the cash transfer is still £2m but we’re both booking much bigger profits.
“And it just so happens that those profits are just enough to keep you inside the PSR limit.”
Are the clubs doing anything wrong? Maguire argues that while fees might look inflated, player valuations are largely subjective.
The nature of the transfer market is that Star A is worth however much Club B are prepared to pay for him. See Antony, whose £85m price tag now looks vastly overinflated.
“How do you really value a football player?” Maguire asks.
“Well you can go to tribunal but that’s a long-winded exercise. You can’t use Transfermarkt because it’s not accurate enough. So I’m not sure the authorities would be able to act even if they felt there was anything to investigate.”
Why does ‘pure profit’ matter?
For PSR purposes it is not the size of the transfer fee that clubs bank that matters, it is the profit they make on a deal. And to make matters even more complicated the profit is calculated against the so-called “book value” of the player rather than the amount a club paid for him.
Due to a process known as amortisation the book value can be worked out by the player’s previous transfer fee divided by the length of their contract.
It is much simpler for academy players: any fee received for them is pure profit with none of the complications. That explains why the Iroegbunam and Dobbin deals make sense to Everton and Villa.
But few clubs are truly happy with the situation, which incentivises the selling of homegrown players. Indeed i understands that there is a possibility of a Premier League working group looking into the issue, which is worrying academy directors. They want this PSR loophole closed.
But this summer, in particular, expect more of these kind of deals.
What does the mutually beneficial deals mean for Profitability and Sustainability Rules?
PSR is increasingly under fire from club owners, with Sir Jim Ratcliffe – part-owner of Manchester United – adding his voice to its critics last week.
Maguire feels the latest raft of deals show the rules are “not fit for purpose”.
“A financial fair play system based on profit when profit is an abstract concept is always going to be a problematic,” he says.
“There’s no such thing as a definitive definition of profit and there are so many loop holes that it makes a profit-based system almost impossible to work.”
What comes next?
Newcastle are close to signing Dominic Calvert-Lewin from Everton (Photo: Getty)
One Premier League executive told i to expect a “busy week” for a clutch of clubs sailing close to the PSR wind. “I think you’ll see some deals you might not have expected,” he said.
i has been told that Newcastle prospect Minteh is “talking to many clubs” – and the list includes Everton, Borussia Dortmind and Lyon.
A £40m deal with the Toffees, who want £37m for Calvert-Lewin, would certainly help the PSR situations of both sides. In fact it would solve both at a stroke, while also eliminating any need to sell other players.
Maguire has always felt Newcastle’s situation is not as bad as others have suggested, with “one or two deals” this week making them compliant.
“There’s an awful lot of guesswork going into what the wage bill is going to be,” he says.
“Being in the Champions League is probably worth £30-35m, you’ve got the front of shirt deal from Sela which is probably worth in the region of £25m, you’ve got the sleeve sponsorship with Noon, which is £8-10m so all of those things need to be taken into account.
“Executive boxes have gone up, the three extra matches in the Champions League will give you an extra £2-3m so you have to look at the revenue implications of what happened last season. I don’t think they’re too bad.”
After 30 June the “real transfer window” starts, with the PSR situation resetting for clubs like Newcastle, Villa and Chelsea and others without financial fair play issues like Liverpool, Brentford and Brighton starting to do business.
“I think Sky Sports may be busy this week,” Maguire added.

Der er dog grænser for hvor meget galskab, de kan slippe afsted med, med den finte. Den registrerede købsværdi vil stadig være en del af afskrivningsberegningerne, og i øvrigt lønningerne, hvorfor de hurtigt kan ende med at pisse i bukserne for at holde varmen. Men klart, det kan i flere tilfælde hjælpe med at udskyde nogle problemer, hvilket det ser ud til at blive tilfældet her.

Der er dog grænser for hvor meget galskab, de kan slippe afsted med, med den finte. Den registrerede købsværdi vil stadig være en del af afskrivningsberegningerne, og i øvrigt lønningerne, hvorfor de hurtigt kan ende med at pisse i bukserne for at holde varmen. Men klart, det kan i flere tilfælde hjælpe med at udskyde nogle problemer, hvilket det ser ud til at blive tilfældet her.

I Chelseas tilfælde handler det vel om at kickstarte en ny strategi under de nye ejere. Så man håber at de mange unge spillere kan finansere ballet i det lange løb og man bliver nødt til at dække nogle huller nu her, fordi man har måtte investere kraftigt til at starte med.

For god ordens skyld: Jeg synes ikke at det er det smarteste at gøre, men jeg tror det er grundlaget for det.

Tror bestemt heller ikke de andre klubber synes det er det smarteste at gøre. Men trods alt et bedre alternativ end en potentiel point straf.

Tror bestemt heller ikke de andre klubber synes det er det smarteste at gøre. Men trods alt et bedre alternativ end en potentiel point straf.

Det jeg hentyder til er lige en tand længere tilbage, hvor man valgte at bruge de penge der gør at man bliver nødsaget til at lave den her finte.