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Meget humoristisk gennemgang af Pompeys nyere historie fra en fan:

http://portus-eg.blogspo…o-ruin.html

Holy smoke der er materiale nok til en konspirationsteori eller to ;-)

Arcady Gaydamak has a room named after him at the Louvre in Paris. Officials at Fratton Park have denied the laundry room at the stadium is too.

Ha ha... :-)

Og ja, jeg har flere gange skrevet, at jeg ser frem til den dag hvor bogen om alt dette her bliver udsendt - vel vidende at nogle ting sikkert aldrig vil se dagens lys.

En lidt forvirrende udvikling med turen til Gibraltar: ingen af klubbens egne spillere er med på turen, kun prøvespillerne! Simon Gillett, Lloyd Sam, Luke Rodgers, Izale Mcleod, Jon Harley, Mustapha Dumbaya, Brian Howard m.fl.

Hvad er planen med det, når klubben end ikke ved, om de får lov til at skrive kontrakt med nye spillere i den nærmeste fremtid? Og hvad er det helt præcist spillerne regner med at få ud af det?

Og så ville jeg være meget bekymret som Pompey-supporter, hvis følgende citat fra Donny manager Dean Saunders betyder det, man kunne frygte: "He said: “I wanted to sort something out with Gilly but we’ve spoken to his agent and another club has been in. “What they’re offering him is way out of our price range so he won’t be coming back to us I’m afraid."

Det må simpelthen bero på en misforståelse - ellers er lektien efter to administrations ikke lært :-/

Det er ikke noget som jeg kender mere til end dig, men det lyder mærkeligt ja. Hvor skulle pengene til nye spillere komme fra? Vi er i øvrigt under transferembargo, så Appleton må slet ikke hente nye ind.

Det begynder at se lidt halvmørkt ud nu.

Fra "The News"

"Trevor Birch has reiterated his warning Pompey won’t start the season if the senior players don’t lower their money demands.

In addition, in a statement released by the club this afternoon, Pompey’s administrator also revealed that staff have been told today of the threat of more redundancies.

The Blues’ wage bill has been reduced to £8m following the departures of Hayden Mullins and Aaron Mokoena.

However, their exits came nine days ago – with Birch now at stalemate with the remaining eight.

Even Luke Varney’s long-anticipated switch to Leeds has been delayed, the deal having stalled at Pompey’s end over compromise wrangling.

Meanwhile, Kanu has given a 14-day notice to quit the club, yet is still owed money, including deferrals.

Birch claims he is also struggling to reach agreement with Tal Ben Haim and Dave Kitson, who are not attracting interest from other clubs so do not represent saleable assets.

Those other senior players include Erik Huseklepp, Liam Lawrence, Greg Halford and David Norris.

Compromise agreements take into account deferrals owed to the players and a percentage of future contracted salary.

Pompey’s season kicks off on Tuesday, August 14, at Plymouth in the Capital One Cup.

Yet the joint-administrator fears they may not even get that far unless the players are more flexible in discussions.

Birch today told The News: ‘We are just not making quick progress and at this moment in time I am doubtful we will start the season.

‘We had signed off two last week and I thought more would be done this week. They have proven to be difficult, however.

‘There’s intransience when it comes to getting them moving out or compromising. We are at a stalemate and that is why the start of the season has to be in jeopardy.

‘We are having trouble with more or less all the players. A lot of them are not prepared to take any compromise deal over a period of time.

‘They want it straight up and not over the time period I am suggesting which is four years and written into the CVA.

‘With Luke Varney, he has agreed matters with Leeds but we are not agreed on a compromise.

‘We are talking with Ben Haim and an agreement cannot be reached because of his demands. While with Kitson and his agent there is no compromise and no wish to come to an agreement.

‘I think there is an element of putting their head in the sand believing all of it will go away.

‘Portpin will not complete a deal while the players are still there – neither will the Trust. If nothing can be done liquidation starts to loom again very strongly.’

Meanwhile, a club statement from Birch today also read: ‘The administrators of Portsmouth Football Club (2010) Ltd have this afternoon commenced consultation with staff at the club about possible redundancies.

‘We have spoken to all of the club’s staff and players and started a redundancy consultation period.

‘I sincerely hope that we can complete the sale of the club and avoid the need for redundancies – and I will continue to do all I can to safeguard the future of the club - but I believe that staff need to be aware of the situation so that they have as much of an opportunity as possible to explore other options.

‘This has been an incredibly difficult time for the staff, many of whom have loyally served the club for a number of years, and I recognise that it is extremely upsetting for them. Today’s announcement is not in any way a reflection on them – in fact, I’m sure that we would not have got this far without their support.’

Det er ved at være endgame nu på den ene eller den anden måde. Stadig lidt vildt at se den lynchstemning, som piskes op af Birch og The News - på Twitter etc. kan man søge på #pompey og se en række trusler mod spillerne! De der "money demands", som Birch ynder at kalde dem, kunne også kaldes deres retmæssige løn - godt nok ifølge nogle meget gavmilde kontrakter, men det er svært at kræve, at spillerne blot skal se bort fra dem...

Imens løber Appleton rundt med en flok spillere og en ny træner, han ikke har lov til at skrive kontrakter med - også selv om alle parter mener, at der bare lige er et par detaljer, der skal falde på plads, og så kan Appy begynde at rekruttere igen.

Hvis man skulle være så uheldig at læse diverse udtalelser fra Appleton, Birch, The News etc. ukritisk, tror jeg, der venter en brat opvågnen i en ikke alt for fjern fremtid. Det hele ser ud til at være gået i hårdknude...

Du sagde det allerede i januar, hvis jeg ikke husker forkert: plan B virker eftehånden som det mest indbydende alternativ :-/

Spillerne har absolut intet at miste. Går klubben konkurs er de sikrede deres resterende lønninger gennem PFA. Så de får deres penge lige meget hvad. Men de kunne godt give sig lidt så det ikke går ud over den faste stab af medarbejdere. De har selvfølgelig retten på deres side, men med lidt velvilje kan de redde klubben fra undergang. Det er der bare tilsyneladende nogle af dem, der ikke er interesserede i, og det kan godt give stof til eftertanke.

Sjovt nok har Birch adskillige gange understreget, at spillerne mister alt, hvis klubber går i liquidation - noget som mange (jeg selv og tilsyneladende også du) har været noget tvivlende omkring. De bliver højst sandsynligt dækket af de resterende parachute payments - noget som Scudamore dog ikke har villet bekræfte.

Spillerne bliver gennem medierne fremstillet som skurke og fremhævet som dem, der slår klubben ihjel - hvilket må siges at være en noget fantasifuld fremstilling af begivenhederne. De kan vælge mellem:

1) at fastholde deres kontrakter - både fremtidige lønninger, men især de lønninger, de har udskudt de sidste mange måneder (alt over £5k er blevet udskudt). Hvis det knækker klubben, får de en hurtig udbetaling fra PFA eller parachute payments
2) at forhandle en kompensation for deres udestående og fremtidige lønninger og skrive kontrakt med en anden klub, der næppe vil give de samme vanvittige lønninger. Kompensationen indlemmes i CVA´et, så det skal udbetales drypvis over de kommende år

Det er lidt en no-brainer for spillerne, særligt den aggressive mediestrategi fra klubben taget i betragtning. Spillerne kan holde fast i de penge, de har krav på, eller acceptere en nedgang og uvisheden ved at blive en del af et CVA. Spillerne har ikke den ringeste motivation for at forhandle - ud over klubfølelse, hvilket både klubben og de mest rabiate fans vist efterhånden har fået mudret godt til...

Skurken er ikke spillerne, men i stedet en smuk forening af "quality over quantity"-ledelsen samt football creditors-reglen. Det er sq skammeligt, at lovgivningen gør, at spillerne sidder og venter på deres sikrede millioner, mens klubbens faste ansatte sidder og ser frem til arbejdsløshed :-(

Fra et bestyrelsesmedlem af The Trust:

"A few things Pompey fans need to think about concerning liquidation.

Whilst there is a ´continuation rule´ for clubs set up within 21 days of an old club liquidating, it is more than likely there would be no professional football in Portsmouth this coming season as all the league places have been allocated. The leagues have discretion, but as every day ticks by the chance of them being flexible diminishes. Therefore we could have a continuation club but a years break in any form of professional football in Portsmouth.

The point about a Pompey fan owning the old Portsmouth Football Club company name is irrelevant. The name of the owning company doesn´t matter and the club hasn´t even operated under the PFC Ltd name since 1999. Also taking on an old company name is a risk as you could open yourself up to old creditors from that old company. It´s wise to start with a totally new company name but the club could still be called Portsmouth Football Club.

One last point I´d make is the amount of work needed to set up a new club. Being part of the current Trust Board has given me a close up insight into the sheer amount of work that has gone into getting the bid this far and that work is ongoing daily. One of the bid team told me yesterday that he is currently spending over 30 hours a week on the bid - that´s on top of his usual working and family life.

I´ve seen first hand the stress some of these fans have put themselves under and sadly another member of the bid team has had to step down partly due to this.

Therefore on liquidation I do hope there are many people ready to do their bit as it simply can´t be left just to the Trust to start again doing all the donkey work. There are Trust elections coming up and quite a few places on the Trust Board are up for election. I would have total respect and sympathy if some of those on the Trust Board who have given so much decided, if liquidation happened, that they would step aside and let others take the reigns. No one has said they would do that at this time as they continue to focus on the job in hand, but I do think other Pompey fans need to think about how much work would be needed on a Plan B scenario and who is going to carry this work out.

I know from personal experience that there have been many times in the last six months where I´ve wished I was just a football fan again and asked myself had I known what was to happen over the last 8 months would I have stood for the Trust elections last year? The answer btw is "probably not" - I don´t think too many would have wanted to have been lumbered with what´s happened and that´s why I´ve so much admiration for those on the board and especially the bid team who have had to take on a huge task, often having to learn on the job, but have not moaned and gone about their work manfully, and all Pompey fans should be proud of what they´ve been able to achieve thus far.

It wouldn´t be a time for internet snipers, it would be a time for people to put their hands up, roll their sleeves up and get on with the mammoth task of rebuilding a football club from scratch with no income for a year - no foregone conclusion."

Hatten af for supporter trust. De er økonomiske miniputter i forhold til de typer, der har interesser i klubben, men de kæmper sq for det!!!

Og så en kommentar fra http://www.portsmouth.co…-1-4083829:
22/07/2012 9:29 PM BST
Farside1
word coming back from Spain that the Brighton friendly may be off as a number of the Pompey triallists have declined to stay and the club cannot put a side together.
The beginning of the end game?