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Eller også er det karakteristisk for mange af de øvrige medtiltalte ...

For ikke at tale om den hovedtiltalte :-)))))))))

Er der overhovedet en eneste af de tiltalte du mener ikke implicit er under anklage for at være Trump-støtter?
Nu skriver du ´for mange´, hvilke indikerer, at der trods alt er en eller flere af de anklagede der har skidt i nælderne, men hvem skulle det i så fald være?

Jeg har fundet den her oversigt, du kan evt. bare strege dem ud, du mener bliver anklaget som en del af en politisk forfølgelse.

Donald Trump, former US president
Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer
Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff
John Eastman, Trump lawyer
Kenneth Chesebro, pro-Trump lawyer
Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official
Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer
Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims
Mike Roman, Trump campaign official
David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector
Shawn Still, fake GOP elector
Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers
Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump
Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers
Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer
Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach
Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach
Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor
Ray Smith, Trump campaign attorney

Og bare lige for at få det på det rene, vil det så være legitimt for Joe Biden, i tilfælde af et valgnederlag, at ringe rundt til repræsentanter i tabte sving-stater og bede dem om at finde de xyz stemmer han mangler for at vinde?

Og vil det tilsvarende være legitimt for demokratiske (lokal)politikere at forfalske de valgmandsstemmer der bliver sendt ind til nationalarkivet, og forsøge at overbevise dem om, at valgmændene har stemt på Biden, og ikke Trump, som et flertal af vælgerne ellers havde gjort ved selve valget?

Jeg synes umiddelbart det lyder noget sketchy.. Men jeg er jo heller ikke advokat...

Jeg har i hvert fald snart fået nok.

Jeg har læst transcriptet fra den samtale med Raffensperger straks den blev offentliggjort i 2021 og den er helt uproblematisk medmindre man vil hetze folk. Hvad man så vil.

Steve:

Hvad er det dog du skriver om mig og hvad jeg tror?

Trump: OK, whatever, it’s a disaster. It’s a disaster. Look. Here’s the problem. We can go through signature verification and we’ll find hundreds of thousands of signatures, if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn’t do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on November whatever. Recently. And compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you’ll find that you have many different signatures. But in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren’t even signed and you have many that are forgeries.

OK, you know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes, because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she, totally corrupt.

And they’re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re laughing at you and you’ve taken a state that’s a Republican state, and you’ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody’s ever cheated before. And I don’t care how long it takes me, you know, we’re going to have other states coming forward — pretty good.

But I won’t … this is never … this is … We have some incredible talent said they’ve never seen anything … Now the problem is they need more time for the big numbers. But they’re very substantial numbers. But I think you’re going to find that they — by the way, a little information, I think you’re going to find that they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots because the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and they’re brand new and they don’t have a seal and there’s the whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt.

And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal, that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, cause you know, this is — it’s a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it. If it was a mistake, I don’t know. A lot of people think it wasn’t a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But it’s a big problem in Georgia and it’s not a problem that’s going away. I mean, you know, it’s not a problem that’s going away.

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Trump: Well, you better check the ballots because they are shredding ballots, Ryan. I’m just telling you, Ryan. They’re shredding ballots. And you should look at that very carefully. Because that’s so illegal. You know, you may not even believe it because it’s so bad. But they’re shredding ballots because they think we’re going to eventually get … because we’ll eventually get into Fulton. In my opinion it’s never too late. … So, that’s the story. Look, we need only 11,000 votes. We have are far more than that as it stands now. We’ll have more and more. And. Do you have provisional ballots at all, Brad? Provisional ballots?

[...]

But, but I’m just curious why wouldn’t, why do you keep fighting this thing? It just doesn’t make sense. We’re way over the 17,779, right? We’re way over that number and just if you took just [name] , we’re over that number by five, five or six times when you multiply that times three.

And every single ballot went to Biden, and you didn’t know that, but, now you know it. So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election and it’s not fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And I think you have to say that you’re going to reexamine it and you can reexamine it, but reexamine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don’t want to find answers

Du er jo ikke en seriøs person.

Jeg har i hvert fald snart fået nok

Sådan tror jeg da, at vi er mange der har det, og finder det totalt absurd at folk læser sådan noget som ovenstående og tænker det er helt efter bogen for en præsident.

Hvorfor vil du ikke fortælle hvem du trods alt mener har skidt i nælderne? Er det de falske valgmænd?

Jeg har læst transcriptet fra den samtale med Raffensperger straks den blev offentliggjort i 2021 og den er helt uproblematisk medmindre man vil hetze folk. Hvad man så vil.

Raffensberger mente det åbenbart anderledes.

Som han skriver I dag:
"The most basic principles of a strong democracy are accountability and respect for the constitution and rule of law. You either have it, or you don´t."

Stop lige dig selv, Waylon.

Trump beder jo ikke om at finde de stemmer på ulovlig vis. Men mener jo de findes på lovlig vis.

Alene det, at du tænker det er helt efter bogen at man lige "finder" de manglende stemmer, bare nok til at man vinder selvfølgelig, og ikke laver en omtælling, er meget sigende.

Som sagt, du er ikke en seriøs person.

Du bider heller ikke mærke i den ikke-så-skjulte trussel Trump sender afsted mod Raffensberger, hvis ikke han gør som Trump ønsker.